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[Georges]

Hello,

 

I'm very new to BlackBox as I discovered it 1 week ago and installed it yesterday. So far I have a very basic skin and I'm still discovering something new every 2 seconds. This is resulting in so many questions that I could flood the entire board with it. However my big question is about the editing function in the blackbox menu.

This one:

 ss (2015-10-27 at 04.58.12).png   14.88KB   0 downloads I'm sure that this is supposed to open a window and I think it did, but i can't see it. The icon appears in my Quick Launch menu and in my BlackBoxBar, but i can never see it on my screen. Is this just me not understanding something? It also does this when i try to open windows media (still using it while I search for a replacement) so it might not be a issue with the editing tool. Edit: Grammar

[pitkon]

If you are referring to the bottom line, called Menu Grip, it's there for decorative reasons, it doesn't open anything and you can make it disappear, if it annoys you. Unless you mean something else?

[Georges]

Sorry I maybe wasn't very clear. I mean that when i click on a file to edit it, I see the editor icon in the quick menu/bar but i can't see the actual window. It also does the same with the windows media player. I can click on the icon and even close it using shift+button2 but i can't see it.

[ArcinHosenka]

The options in Blackbox -> Blackbox -> Edit are supposed to open the desired file in bbnote.exe, Blackbox's inbuilt text editor. See spoiler for a screenshot. If it doesn't work for whatever reason (you probably changed the value in Blackbox -> Configuration -> Misc -> Blackbox Editor, it's bbnote.exe by default), you can open them manually in any other text editor.

 

Also, I'd like to recommend MPC-HC, if you install madVR and ReClock it becomes one of the best video players, especially for anime. See setup guide at https://wiki.install...ndex.php/MPC-HC (the link was live when I last visited it)

 

Spoiler

http://s019.radikal....a67444d2943.png

[Ynthno]

OP is seeing the bbnote icon in his bar but he can't see the window itself for some reason. Its never coming to the forefront.

 

Have you tried ALT+TAB?

 

This sounds like an issue I had years ago.. don't remember how I fixed it though.

[pitkon]

It's a long shot, but maybe the editor (make sure you have the one mentioned by ArcinHosenka above) is being opened on another desktop? To make sure, ctrl+right click on the toolbar to bring up the menu and then go Configuration/Tasks. Uncheck Current Only and see how it goes.

[Georges]

Thank you for the help everyone! And yes my problem is that the window of the editor (or sometimes other programs). I can move the program from desktop to desktop using the QuickMenu. I also never had the Option Current Only checked, for the sake of testing I checked and unchecked it, no change. Here is how it looks:  ss (2015-10-28 at 10.27.04).jpg   39.16KB   0 downloads We can clearly see the editor here, sadly it never comes to front.

[pitkon]

Thank you for the help everyone!

And yes my problem is that the window of the editor (or sometimes other programs).

I can move the program from desktop to desktop using the QuickMenu. I also never had the Option Current Only checked, for the sake of testing I checked and unchecked it, no change.

Here is how it looks:

ss (2015-10-28 at 10.27.04).jpg

We can clearly see the editor here, sadly it never comes to front.

My best guess is bbnote is out of screen range. Can you please post your bbnote.ini here along with the size of your screen?

[Georges]

I got 2 screens, main one is 1366x768, other one is 1920x1080. Here is my bbnite.ini:

 

[bbnote]

textfont=lucida console

textfontsize=10

textfontweight=400

open_new_window=0

smarttabs=0

writetabs=1

tabsize=4

wrapcursor=0

colorized=1

unix_eol=0

mousewheel=10

wx0=1571

wy0=32767

wxl=439

wyl=920

searchfor=

replaceby=

searchmode=0

lastdirectory=c:bbZerostyles

[light]

comment=009f00

keyword=0000e5

operator=0000ff

string=ff0000

number=ff0000

praeproc=c100c0

[dark]

comment=acc3ee

keyword=ffff35

operator=4affff

string=ff7f0f

number=83cc4d

praeproc=ffc856

 

Also, not sure if I should ask here, but is there a place to ask quick questions, like if I can't find a file or something?  Things that do not require an entire thread.

[Ynthno]

Pitkon is right, bbnote is out of screen range, In your bbnote.ini your wx0 and wy0 are way too high. (this is the x and y position of where the window appears)

 

It would be out of range on either of your monitors.

 

Something about your multimonitor setup is messing up screen coords.

[pitkon]

Try this.

 

[bbnote]

textfont=lucida console

textfontsize=10

textfontweight=400

open_new_window=0

smarttabs=0

writetabs=1

tabsize=4

wrapcursor=0

colorized=1

unix_eol=0

mousewheel=10

wx0=638

wy0=256

wxl=465

wyl=256

searchfor=

replaceby=

searchmode=0

lastdirectory=c:bbZerostyles

[light]

comment=009f00

keyword=0000e5

operator=0000ff

string=ff0000

number=ff0000

praeproc=c100c0

[dark]

comment=acc3ee

keyword=ffff35

operator=4affff

string=ff7f0f

number=83cc4d

praeproc=ffc856

 

BBNote should appear somewhere near the middle of the screen.

And, yes, this is the right place to ask. Nio files on bbnote, I'm afraid, but that's what a Help section is for

[Georges]

Indeed, it solved the problem, thank you very much! I can see the parameters that I have to change to solve the problem in the future. But I wonder if there is a way to reset a window (of any program) into screen range. I use a computer that i often take in and out of a dock station. The problem is that if i forget a window on another screen before docking it out, i cannot retrieve it until i dock again. I knew a trick to do that in explorer.exe, can you think of one for blackbox?

[Ynthno]

I don't think there is anything like that for blackbox but it is pretty simple to add, its just a matter of calling EnumWindows, excluding some handles, and passing the rest to MoveWindow.(with 0,0 as the coords)

 

I found out the hard way you have to exclude certain handles.. apparently you can force move/resize blackboxbar etc itself...

 

Quick and dirty way to do this is with python and pywin32:

import win32guidef enumHandler(hwnd, lParam):    title = win32gui.GetWindowText(hwnd)    excludes = ["Blackbox"]    running = {}    running[title] = hwnd    for procname, handle in running.items():        if procname not in excludes:            win32gui.MoveWindow(handle, 0, 0, 800, 600, True)win32gui.EnumWindows(enumHandler, None) 

Unfortunately as bbleanbar etc don't have window names you can't exclude them :< 

 

I think if I used GetProcessHandleFromHwnd then GetModuleFileNameEx to get the full path and excluded based on the name of the file (I'm hoping it gives the plugin dll names etc).. might try doing that. If you find that bbleanbar and your wallpaper were moved/resized as well just reload your style and it will fix itself.

[Cea]

To reset bbNote location, just rename (i.e. delete-but-back-it-up) [font="'lucida sans unicode', 'lucida grande', sans-serif;"]bbnote.ini[/font]. A new one will be re-created.

 

I personnally copy-pasted the (almost) default settings to my [font="'lucida sans unicode', 'lucida grande', sans-serif;"]bbnote.ini[/font] (the lines with leading "!", which includes both the starting position and its size) :

 

...

[font="'lucida sans unicode', 'lucida grande', sans-serif;"]# by default :[/font]

[font="'lucida sans unicode', 'lucida grande', sans-serif;"]!wx0=108[/font]

[font="'lucida sans unicode', 'lucida grande', sans-serif;"]!wy0=303[/font]

[font="'lucida sans unicode', 'lucida grande', sans-serif;"]!wxl=688[/font]

[font="'lucida sans unicode', 'lucida grande', sans-serif;"]!wyl=643[/font]

[font="'lucida sans unicode', 'lucida grande', sans-serif;font-size:10px;"]# current settings :[/font]

[font="'lucida sans unicode', 'lucida grande', sans-serif;"]wx0=108[/font]

[font="'lucida sans unicode', 'lucida grande', sans-serif;"]wy0=303[/font]

[font="'lucida sans unicode', 'lucida grande', sans-serif;"]wxl=817[/font]

[font="'lucida sans unicode', 'lucida grande', sans-serif;"]wyl=732[/font]

...

 

So that I can overwrite the coordinates whenever I no longer see bbnote: close/kill bbnote, copy-paste and remove the "!", re-start bbnote.

 

Please note that may also happen with (at least) bbStyleMaker for which [font="'lucida sans unicode', 'lucida grande', sans-serif;"]bbstylemaker.rc[/font] is involved. That file only contains the last position of the window, e.g. :

 

[font="'lucida sans unicode', 'lucida grande', sans-serif;"]bbstylemaker.xpos: 836[/font]

[font="'lucida sans unicode', 'lucida grande', sans-serif;"]bbstylemaker.ypos: 206[/font]

 

Set both of them to 1 and it'll appear on your main screen (well, kill bbstylemaker, modify the .rc file, restart bbstylemaker).

 

Final information : that behaviour occurs when you use 2 screens and you placed bbnote on the second screen. If you reboot with only 1 screen, bbnote will still try to be located on the second screen.