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Started by molecube , May 18 2018 05:14 PM

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#1 molecube

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 05:14 PM

Hey everybody,

 

has anyone already installed the April Update 1803 for their Windows 10? I have and I wish I hadn't. On 1803 there occurs a very strange problem for me. When blackbox is installed (and not just started from its directory) on this version of Windows the file explorer as well as others (in my case Q-Dir) don't refresh anymore (means: When I create a folder, delete a file, rename anything etc. I have to press F5 after every single action). As soon as I uninstalled blackbox and just start the exe everything works fine regarding the automatic refresh.

 

Does anyone here have the same issue and maybe even a solution?

 

For now I'm running blackbox just by placing it in the autostart folder (Ctrl+R -> "shell:startup"). This way I can even access Edge and all the other windows settings, the windows update dialogue etc. which aren't available when blackbox is fully installed. But I can't access the blackbox main menu anymore when pressing the windows key.

Is there a way to pick a new key or key combination to access the blackbox main menu still? I'd be happy if it was somewhere near the windows key.

 

Thanks very much in advance and maybe let me be a warning to not installing 1803 for now :)

 

Best regards!


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Posted 22 May 2018 - 06:59 PM

hi.

you just have to edit bbkeys.rc (/plugins/bbkeys/bbkeys.rc). invoke menu section, it's rather straight forward and human readable. Personally I use a combination of win+z. 

 

As for the refresh...well may be someone with more experience might answer. I any cases I have the same issue but I can't say if it is BBzero specifically because lately I installed listary and started having this issue when used with bbzero.


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Posted 23 May 2018 - 07:22 PM

Hi meanmechanics,

 

thanks for your reply and help. I will try that and return here if it doesn't work.

 

Much appreciated!


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Posted 26 May 2018 - 10:48 AM

Hi meanmechanics,

 

thanks again for your advice, though I must admit I didn't get it working. Even when I changed already set up combinations that were in the bbkeys.rc (which I opened via the blackbox menu itself) I couldn't use them. Does blackbox have to be installed to access the keyboard to assign functions to certain buttons/combinations?

 

Thanks in advance for your help!


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Posted 21 June 2018 - 05:53 PM

Hello!

Here is a small workaround to fix the Explorer not update.

The blackbox.bat start the explorer and kill it again after 3 seconds.

What the explorer explicitly loads I could not find out so far unfortunately.

Install:
- copy blackbox.bat into the bbZeroX32 folder
- start bsetshell.exe set option "other" <Path>/blackbox.bat

- confirm with set and logoff
- login
- testing

(if necessary increase the time "timeout / t3" in the blackbox.bat)
 
Supplement:
- the problem also exists in Build 1809

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 05:24 PM

Hi meanmechanics,

 

thanks again for your advice, though I must admit I didn't get it working. Even when I changed already set up combinations that were in the bbkeys.rc (which I opened via the blackbox menu itself) I couldn't use them. Does blackbox have to be installed to access the keyboard to assign functions to certain buttons/combinations?

 

Thanks in advance for your help!

 

Hey. Not to my knowledge it does mess a little with custom shortcuts or windows shortcuts. I remember in my first days of using BBLean I got stuck with WIN+R rebooting my machine everytime, in fact I'd set bbkeys shortcut WIN+R to Reboot because at the time it was made more sense for me.

 

As for your question...I also use another key combination sometimes because I have so many autohotkey shortcuts that sometime I mess things a bit:

 

If bbkeys is not working (and there may be a plethora of reasons) for you you might try curbing extension.rc (.../bbzero/extension.rc). Below is my own personal setting:

 

 

As you can see, under #DESKTOP MOUSE CLICK>#ALTERNATIVES MENU I've added a line: blackbox.desktop.CtrlRightClick: @BBCore.ShowMenu root

 

This way I can press CTRL+Mouse Right Button to invoke the main menu.

 

# -----------------------------------------------------

# bbZero 1.17.x - extensions.rc
 
# Lines starting with # or ! are ignored
 
# -----------------------------------------------------
# Favorite Tool
 
# The default editor for menu, styles and settings
blackbox.editor: bbnote.exe
 
# Alternative menu bullets (a template is in 'docs')
blackbox.appearance.bullet.bitmap: menu-bullets.bmp
blackbox.appearance.arrow.unix: true
 
# -----------------------------------------------------
# Drag'n-dropped background images are saved here
blackbox.background.rootCommand: style
blackbox.background.enabled: true
blackbox.background.smartWallpaper: true
 
# -----------------------------------------------------
# Desktop Mouse Clicks
 
# General: blackbox.desktop.[<mod>]<button>Click: <command>
# <mod>    = Alt, Shift, Ctrl
# <button> = Left, Mid, Right, X1, X2, X3, Double
 
# these are built-in, but may be changed here
! blackbox.desktop.RightClick: @BBCore.ShowMenu root
! blackbox.desktop.MidClick: @BBCore.ShowMenu workspaces
blackbox.desktop.MidClick: @BBCore.ShowMenu Root
 
 
# styles menu
blackbox.desktop.AltMidClick: @BBCore.ShowMenu styles >> @BBCore.style %1
 
# workspaces menu
blackbox.desktop.CtrlLeftClick: @BBCore.ShowMenu workspaces
 
# tasks menu
blackbox.desktop.CtrlRightClick: @BBCore.ShowMenu tasks
 
# configuration menu
blackbox.desktop.AltRightClick: @BBCore.ShowMenu configuration
 
# alternative menu
! blackbox.desktop.CtrlRightClick: @BBCore.ShowMenu alt-menu.rc
blackbox.desktop.CtrlRightClick: @BBCore.ShowMenu root
 
#disable right-click
blackbox.desktop.RightClick: 
blackbox.desktop.marginRight: -1
blackbox.desktop.marginBottom: -1
 
 
 
# -----------------------------------------------------
# Miscellaneous options (uncomment to use)
 
# command for double left click on a folder in the menu
! blackbox.options.openFolderCommand: explorer.exe /e,"%1"
 
# other locale may be set (for the clock display)
! blackbox.options.locale: <usa, gbr, rus, fra, ita, etc ...>
 
# run something after processing the system startup items
! blackbox.startup.run: <any command or @broam>
 
# enable some debug output during startup (to "blackbox.log"):
blackbox.options.log: startup tray
blackbox.options.UTF8Encoding: true
 
# use unicode for filenames and UTF-8 for menus
blackbox.options.UTF8Encoding: true
 
 
# -----------------------------------------------------
# System dependent Tweak
 
# Left margin adjustment for contextmenus with icons (normal/sendTo)
! blackbox.contextmenu.itemAdjust: 28/28
 
 
# -----------------------------------------------------
# Global font override - for special purposes
 
# Enable this feature?
blackbox.global.fonts.enabled: false
 
# override font definitions from styles:
blackbox.global.toolbar.font: verdana
blackbox.global.toolbar.fontHeight: 13
blackbox.global.toolbar.fontWeight: normal
 
blackbox.global.menu.title.font: verdana
blackbox.global.menu.title.fontHeight: 13
blackbox.global.menu.title.fontWeight: bold
 
blackbox.global.menu.frame.font: verdana
blackbox.global.menu.frame.fontHeight: 13
blackbox.global.menu.frame.fontWeight: normal
 
blackbox.global.window.font: verdana
blackbox.global.window.fontHeight: 13
blackbox.global.window.fontWeight: bold
blackbox.menu.grip.enabled: false
blackbox.workspaces.altMethod: false
blackbox.workspaces.styleXPFix: true
 
# -----------------------------------------------------

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 03:44 PM

Hi meanmechanics,

 

thanks again for your advice, though I must admit I didn't get it working. Even when I changed already set up combinations that were in the bbkeys.rc (which I opened via the blackbox menu itself) I couldn't use them. Does blackbox have to be installed to access the keyboard to assign functions to certain buttons/combinations?

 

Thanks in advance for your help!

Thanks a lot !

I had the same issue and it's working fine now.


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Posted 24 May 2019 - 11:56 AM

 

Hello!

Here is a small workaround to fix the Explorer not update.

The blackbox.bat start the explorer and kill it again after 3 seconds.

What the explorer explicitly loads I could not find out so far unfortunately.

Install:
- copy blackbox.bat into the bbZeroX32 folder
- start bsetshell.exe set option "other" <Path>/blackbox.bat

- confirm with set and logoff
- login
- testing

(if necessary increase the time "timeout / t3" in the blackbox.bat)
 
Supplement:
- the problem also exists in Build 1809

 

calculator is not working on Windows 10. However, I'm trying to add show desktop (minimize all windows ) on the BlackBoxBar. 

can you please help. 

 

thanks 


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Posted 08 July 2020 - 04:43 PM

Hallo xsuper,

sorry I am only now answering.

The calculator is an "APP" at Windows 10 and it does not run under BB.
I use as an alternative: https://sourceforge....s/reactos-calc/
 


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